NCoV19

[mrostov]

Found this on the web...

From Kevin Walmsly(retired Special Forces living in China)
TL/DR: big impact coming on medical supplies, vitamins, and drugs. Stock up now.

Hi all. So the Corona Virus has shut down all of East and Central China and is now moving across other countries in Asia. This is going to have deep and almost immediate effects on goods and products that are for sale in the US, on everything from auto parts to zippers.

Of greatest concern for now is what it will do to supplies of medical equipment and drugs, everything from band aids and cotton swabs and vitamins and prescription drugs of all kinds. Also, protective gear like face masks and hazmat suits.
I strongly advise that you prepare your families accordingly, and consider begin stocking up on some of these items that will be in very high demand, very soon. China makes of 90% of the drug ingredients and about 80% of the medical supplies used in the United States, and right now, nobody in China is making them at all.

I have been living in China for eight years and am on Wechat (a social networking app) with about 800 expatriate business executives across China. The economy here no longer exists, basically. It’s been closed for 3 weeks, and nobody really knows when the manufacturing sector or any of the factories will reopen.

Martial law has been declared in eight provinces with a total population of 500 million people, and the rest of us outside these zones have had our movements proscribed to going out to get groceries once every two days. Army and police in the Eastern provinces (where most of the industry is) are arresting people who are outside their homes, though even that isn’t as effective as before because now so many military and police units are infected and unable to function. There are very few flights available in; the roads and ports are closed, railroads shut down. Even if a factory owner can get permission to open, his workers aren’t allowed to move, and he can’t ship product out. This will go on for an indeterminate period.

For the kinds of drugs and supplies I’ve mentioned above, the export markets will not be getting any new production for many weeks. These supplies and medicines are in critical and desperate supply here and the Chinese government has ordered local governments to procure whatever is necessary from factories and shops. The true numbers of the infected and dead are many orders of magnitude higher than the official accounts, which nobody really believes anymore.

A quick note about care or aid packages: in the event you have churches or friends here in Asia who ask you to send them medical supplies, those packages will likely never arrive to where you had hoped. The customs officials have been ordered to seize any medical supplies for use in hospitals. Even passengers arriving in airports are having their carry-on bags and stowed luggage searched for masks, respirators, rain gear (no kidding)—anything that could be used by hospital staff to protect themselves from what they’re dealing with—and it’s being confiscated.

With respect to the disease itself, I don’t think this disease can be stopped anything short of supernatural means. Infections continue to soar, even under military-enforced quarantines that have been in place for almost a month. You have to see the Army response here to believe it, and yet nothing has worked. You mercifully haven’t had many cases there, yet, but I fear that you’re just six or seven weeks behind where we are in China, and four to five weeks behind Japan. Only a miracle can stop it, and that’s what we need to be praying for. If you're a man or woman of faith, get some more. If at some point you left it or lost it, go back to where you saw it last, and pick it up again.

All the best,
Kevin Walmsley

[Notenoughtime3]

Clean mason jars. Wide-mouth jars work best because it's easier to get the berries into them, but you can use whatever jar you have. They don't even have to be proper mason/canning jars; anything with a tight-fitting lid will work. Use glass, not metal.
A source of elderberries. Fresh, local berries are best, but you can also order dried berries in bulk. If your berries are frozen, let them thaw and then continue with the instructions.
A fork for removing the elderberries from the stems.
A bowl and a colander to store and wash the elderberries.
100-proof vodka. 100-proof vodka is typically used in tincture-making because it is 50 percent water and 50 percent alcohol, comprising a standard solution. You can use regular vodka or even brandy in a pinch, though.



If you have planted your own elderberry bush, that's great. Otherwise, identify the elderberry bush before picking anything, as it's easy to confuse elderberry with the toxic water hemlock, Cicuta mexicana. You can tell the difference because water hemlock's stems are hollow with purple stripes. All parts of water hemlock are toxic, so don't touch the plant. Remember that raw elderberry can cause nausea, so resist the urge to sample the berries.

You'll want to pick only ripe elderberries. The berries are ripe when they are a deep purple-black color and slightly soft to the touch. Use scissors to snip off the purple berry clusters with stems intact. This makes it easier to strip the berries from the "umbrells," the umbrella-like, delicate stems that they grow on. Use the large central stem as a handle while cleaning off the berries.

Use a fork to gently pull the berries off the umbrells. Start at the bottom of the cluster and work your way up toward the main stem.



Remove any bits of stem that got into the bowl, and place them in a large colander. Rinse well with plenty of cold running water and drain.

Optional: Take a potato masher or put the berries in your blender and mash them a bit. This applies only to fresh berries, not if you're using dried.


Spoon or pour the washed elderberries into a clean, dry mason jar. Fill the jar loosely with the berries up to about one inch from the neck of the jar.


Pour 100-proof vodka or spirit of choice over the berries, covering them completely. Fill the jar almost to the brim with alcohol.

lose the jar with a tight-fitting lid such as a fresh canning lid and ring. Use a permanent marker to label the jar with:

The date you made the tincture
The herb used
The type of alcohol used

Allow the tincture to steep for two to six weeks. Shake the jar each day. For the first week or so, unscrew the lid each day and check to be sure the berries are covered with vodka. Top off with additional vodka as needed.

After six weeks, strain the tincture through a colander into a bowl, pressing as much tincture out of the berries as you can. Rebottle the resulting liquid in a clean jar, label it and store it in a dark place. Discard the berries.

Thanks Hike! Been using a different recipe that only lasts a month or so. Luckily they grow like crazy in my yard. Biggest problem has been the separating all of the stems.

[Notenoughtime3]

Found this on the web...

From Kevin Walmsly(retired Special Forces living in China)
TL/DR: big impact coming on medical supplies, vitamins, and drugs. Stock up now.

Hi all. So the Corona Virus has shut down all of East and Central China and is now moving across other countries in Asia. This is going to have deep and almost immediate effects on goods and products that are for sale in the US, on everything from auto parts to zippers.

Of greatest concern for now is what it will do to supplies of medical equipment and drugs, everything from band aids and cotton swabs and vitamins and prescription drugs of all kinds. Also, protective gear like face masks and hazmat suits.
I strongly advise that you prepare your families accordingly, and consider begin stocking up on some of these items that will be in very high demand, very soon. China makes of 90% of the drug ingredients and about 80% of the medical supplies used in the United States, and right now, nobody in China is making them at all.

I have been living in China for eight years and am on Wechat (a social networking app) with about 800 expatriate business executives across China. The economy here no longer exists, basically. It’s been closed for 3 weeks, and nobody really knows when the manufacturing sector or any of the factories will reopen.

Martial law has been declared in eight provinces with a total population of 500 million people, and the rest of us outside these zones have had our movements proscribed to going out to get groceries once every two days. Army and police in the Eastern provinces (where most of the industry is) are arresting people who are outside their homes, though even that isn’t as effective as before because now so many military and police units are infected and unable to function. There are very few flights available in; the roads and ports are closed, railroads shut down. Even if a factory owner can get permission to open, his workers aren’t allowed to move, and he can’t ship product out. This will go on for an indeterminate period.

For the kinds of drugs and supplies I’ve mentioned above, the export markets will not be getting any new production for many weeks. These supplies and medicines are in critical and desperate supply here and the Chinese government has ordered local governments to procure whatever is necessary from factories and shops. The true numbers of the infected and dead are many orders of magnitude higher than the official accounts, which nobody really believes anymore.

A quick note about care or aid packages: in the event you have churches or friends here in Asia who ask you to send them medical supplies, those packages will likely never arrive to where you had hoped. The customs officials have been ordered to seize any medical supplies for use in hospitals. Even passengers arriving in airports are having their carry-on bags and stowed luggage searched for masks, respirators, rain gear (no kidding)—anything that could be used by hospital staff to protect themselves from what they’re dealing with—and it’s being confiscated.

With respect to the disease itself, I don’t think this disease can be stopped anything short of supernatural means. Infections continue to soar, even under military-enforced quarantines that have been in place for almost a month. You have to see the Army response here to believe it, and yet nothing has worked. You mercifully haven’t had many cases there, yet, but I fear that you’re just six or seven weeks behind where we are in China, and four to five weeks behind Japan. Only a miracle can stop it, and that’s what we need to be praying for. If you're a man or woman of faith, get some more. If at some point you left it or lost it, go back to where you saw it last, and pick it up again.

All the best,
Kevin Walmsley

I was just talking to a friend about the supply chain breakdown that we are about to see. Don't sell or get rid of items that you think you can just repurchase in the store or online as things are about to change and many items that are made in China will soon be unavailable.

[Notenoughtime3]

Stefan Molyneaux new video on this today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt85Eb7WlfA

Just got around to watching that.

Best video I've seen so far. Thanks.

[Libertarian]

Let's see if this works on this forum...

[FLASH_VIDEO]<iframe frameborder="0" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Rxm-4K6QP4A" width="560"></iframe>[/FLASH_VIDEO]

Nope. But the hyperlink works. Enjoy!

[mrostov]

40 large incinerators normally used to dispose of animal bodies have been set up in Wuhan, China

[mrostov]

Correction, they already had 49 there, that was an additional 40. So, now it's 89 total that we know about.

In a nutshell, 89 of these incinerators does not jive with what China has said was the 'official' death toll.

[mrostov]

Contacts in China were told by Chinese doctors that the death rate is at least 10x higher than what the Chinese government is reporting.

They are not running 89 high capacity incinerators just in Wuhan alone (in addition to the crematories already there), for shits and giggles.

The last info I had was that those two funeral crematories were each burning 700 bodies a day. So, they brought in 89 high capacity incinerators to pick up the slack.

[Libertarian]

Now for something a little lighter...

There was a little girl, and she had a little bird,
And she called it by the pretty name of Enza;
But one day it flew away, but it didn't go to stay,
For when she raised the window, in-flu-Enza.

[mrostov]

now THIS could be very bad

The authorities in Wuhan on Saturday introduced 14 days’ mandatory quarantine for recovered coronavirus
patients, after some discharged patients again tested positive.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society ... days-after