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Re: NCoV19

Post by mrostov » Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:01 pm


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Re: NCoV19

Post by Libertarian » Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:36 pm

That's just lovely! Capt. Tripps aka Tubeneck is here to dance.


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Hard number math

Post by Marine » Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:38 pm

One my current short stories analyzing this thing. It has currently exceeded every metric of the Spanish Flu for infectious spread, serious complications, and the CFR is way higher (2% vs 3.4% currently). Look at the actions being taken vs what is reported... it's far far worse than what is being reported officially. And that's a huge red flag for me.

The other red flag is how our government has gone 1984 on this. The recent directive from the White House that all information regarding this virus has to be cleared through them before before released should everyone alarmed. The CDC isn't testing anyone who doesn't meet certain strict criteria. This thing is exploding in the US right now, and no one knows it because the government isn't talking, isn't testing, and is acting very dismissive of it in general.

During SARS, China was only responsible for approx 2% of global commerce. Now its 28%. And it's ground to a stop. You can't cut 30% of the global commerce without serious consequences. 90% of our active ingredients for drugs come from China. Stopped. Ports are empty. Last report I saw, over 40 sailings have been cancelled so far. 94% of Fortune 1000 companies are experiencing significant and damaging supply chain interruptions.

We have the best healthcare in the world, true. But we have the worst healthcare SYSTEM in the world. Astronomically expensive and fatally dysfunctional with all the bureaucracy and red tape and BS government regulations and insurance fraud.

It would only take less than 2% increase in current case load to crash the system altogether. For example, Sacred Heart in Spokane is one of the nation’s leading hospitals and one of only 10 in the nation with an isolation ward. The isolation ward is only 14 beds, and it's already half full.

There are only 94,800 ICU beds in the entire nation, most of which are occupied at any given time. The healthcare SYSTEM is designed to operate at 100% capacity or as close to it as possible, otherwise it becomes financially insolvent and unsustainable.

If the numbers continue on the existing path right now:
Using only official current numbers

327,000,000 US Population
80% infectious rate (WHO)
261,600,000 infected
20% serious complication rate (WHO)
52,320,000 (the healthcare system crashes. Our healthcare system already operates at 90% capacity or higher. A 1% increase would collapse the system.)
3.4% CFR (WHO)
8,894,400 dead

RO of up to 7
Infectious incubation period of up to 28 days
Infectious and contagious on hard surfaces up to 9 days.
Airborne transmission and droplet transmission
All means this is uncontainable and unstoppable.

Our healthcare system couldn't handle 1% of 52 million severe cases needing medical intervention. Assuming all 94,800 ICU beds were available, our system could only handle 0.2% of the projected severe cases. Even less if you factor in people needing intubation and artificial respirators (which are even fewer beds than ICU beds). And we aren’t even accounting for everyday other emergencies and injuries and cases.

The US has already shown how incompetent it is with the handling of this virus. Refusing to test suspected cases, suppressing the news, forcing hospitals and medical scientists under gag orders to clear any information through the white house before releasing it, and the list goes on. We are absolutely incapable of dealing with this virus, and to pretend we are is just plain ignorance or cognitive dissonance, or something... normalcy bias. Denial.

This is scary shit. Far worse than the Spanish Flu just based on current official numbers. But worse than our healthcare system being unable to deal with this, is that our society will be unable to deal with this - once panic sets in and supply lines breakdown and you can't get food and other goods at the store and quarantines are set in place. And that is already beginning to happen. Supply lines are being interrupted and breaking down, and stores are already starting to ration purchases.

As if the virus isn't bad enough, we have a comet and an asteroid coming up our tailpipe next month, running very close to the earth. Close enough to cause global effects. There is some speculation that the debris tail may pose a danger to the earth, that's how close these are coming. Ocean water is being pulled back from shore in a lot of areas, leaving boats stranded on the mud. Something is pulling hard on earths magnetosphere to make the oceans pull back like that.

Volcanoes are erupting all over the place. And lots of earthquakes M4 or larger.

Yellowstone is actively moving and lots of uplift on the caldera.

Biblical plagues of locusts in Africa, migrating up to the ME and China.

And of course, politics... war posturing continues with Russia, and still with China even despite the virus.

My new years resolution to "Survive 2020" given all the shit that happened just in January, doesn't seem so funny anymore.

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Re: NCoV19

Post by Libertarian » Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:55 pm

As if the virus isn't bad enough, we have a comet and an asteroid coming up our tailpipe next month, running very close to the earth. Close enough to cause global effects. There is some speculation that the debris tail may pose a danger to the earth, that's how close these are coming. Ocean water is being pulled back from shore in a lot of areas, leaving boats stranded on the mud. Something is pulling hard on earths magnetosphere to make the oceans pull back like that.
Do you have any links for this?

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Re: NCoV19

Post by Libertarian » Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:55 am


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Re: NCoV19

Post by Marine » Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:34 pm

Libertarian wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:55 pm
As if the virus isn't bad enough, we have a comet and an asteroid coming up our tailpipe next month, running very close to the earth. Close enough to cause global effects. There is some speculation that the debris tail may pose a danger to the earth, that's how close these are coming. Ocean water is being pulled back from shore in a lot of areas, leaving boats stranded on the mud. Something is pulling hard on earths magnetosphere to make the oceans pull back like that.
Do you have any links for this?
Check out suspicious observers channel on Youtube (space and science channel)
Also NASA.
mrMBBB on youtube has video showing the boats drydocked in the mud at the coastlines (no, it's not a tsunami)
The RealBPearthwatch also has quite a few videos on this stuff

And of course there's always google. :D

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Re: NCoV19

Post by Marine » Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:39 pm

Port Of Los Angeles Taking "Substantial Hit", Expects Volume To Plunge 15% (according to video reports, the ports look empty)
https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/por ... oronavirus

Moscow Goes 'High Alert', Threatens 5 Years In Jail For Breaking Self-Quarantine
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/moscow ... quarantine

Colorado, North Carolina Declare State of Emergency over Coronavirus
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020 ... ronavirus/

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Re: NCoV19

Post by Marine » Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:42 pm


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Re: NCoV19

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